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Post by ontariosoccer2 on Dec 9, 2018 19:34:36 GMT
When OS has rules in place that forces you to join their OPDL to proogress tells you what they offer is not as good as what others can offer. It also tells you they care not about talent just about who is willing to pay. What a joke of a provincial body. No other sport in Canada does it this way, zero!
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Post by TruthHurts on Dec 10, 2018 15:55:18 GMT
Wondering what everyone’s feelings are re the whole Provincial Projects / Provincial Team thing. My son plays for one of the top OASL academies and has received excellent training from them for the past number of years. He was referred to one of the Talent on Location Days and has now progressed all the way to the Provincial Project stage - meaning he’s in the final 50 or so kids from which 22 will be selected to represent Ontario. It sounds like a great opportunity to play at an elite level and potentially get scouted for the National program - and it’s something he should be very proud of - but he’s actually mostly anxious because in trying to decipher the cryptic and at times conflicting “rules”, he now has 2 weeks to sign on with an OPDL team or he cannot continue with the Provincial Team despite earning his spot? He’s a loyal kid and has already committed to his excellent Academy for the 2019 season. What to do?? Hello, Since you value your OASL Academy why not talk to the Coach and get his insight regarding this, Who Referred him to go to The Talent Id Showcase ? I'm sure your Child wont have a problem with Paying Joining an OPDL Team if you choose to go this route. Meeting tonight at The PeelHalton District Office Regarding addition of SportsEngine. In attendance Johnny Misley, Leonard Goldberg, and Lyn Wallington should be a fun evening.....
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Post by soccerontarioisajoke on Dec 10, 2018 19:40:17 GMT
the rules that the opdl put in is a joke... a ton of the players on the project list dont deserve to be there. another generation of kids ruined by politics and the greed of money!
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Post by protega on Dec 10, 2018 22:46:43 GMT
Wondering what everyone’s feelings are re the whole Provincial Projects / Provincial Team thing. My son plays for one of the top OASL academies and has received excellent training from them for the past number of years. He was referred to one of the Talent on Location Days and has now progressed all the way to the Provincial Project stage - meaning he’s in the final 50 or so kids from which 22 will be selected to represent Ontario. It sounds like a great opportunity to play at an elite level and potentially get scouted for the National program - and it’s something he should be very proud of - but he’s actually mostly anxious because in trying to decipher the cryptic and at times conflicting “rules”, he now has 2 weeks to sign on with an OPDL team or he cannot continue with the Provincial Team despite earning his spot? He’s a loyal kid and has already committed to his excellent Academy for the 2019 season. What to do?? Don't buy into their BS about the national team. We've always passed on the TOLD events because the whole process is meaningless. They'll try to tell you that the "provincial program" is the way to the national team, but my kid has been approached by someone from the national program even though we'll never attend any provincial program or play in the OPDL. A big part of your son's development to date is probably attributable to the training he's received at his academy, so be careful about throwing that away, or even wasting a year someplace the he might stagnate. Don't forget that this is far from a "provincial team" - no one from TFC, no one from several of the top academies and no one from some of the top club teams in the province. I know quite a few kids who bought the sales pitch and moved to OPDL and almost all of those families found it to be a mistake in hindsight.
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Post by H on Dec 11, 2018 12:01:35 GMT
Thanks all for your insights - all agree with my opinions on this matter. I had actually misread the confusing rules, turns out the OPDL requirement doesn’t kick in until the following year so for now he’ll stick it out with the Provincial Project and see where this all leads. Perhaps by next year the OPDL will have dissolved or merged with the OASL, to the betterment of all.
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Post by TruthHurts on Dec 11, 2018 23:33:15 GMT
Recap of meeting last night,
Adding new registration system to Collect Fees at a cost to all clubs ( Parents )
Instead of Working on a plan to make Ontario Soccer Better.
Money First---------------Youth Soccer Last
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Post by Biff Lomax on Dec 12, 2018 14:10:17 GMT
My understanding is OPDL is a dead end, apparently the current 2001 players have to jump across to OASL to continue forward? I've been told that the "Provincial" team is not the holy grail that OPDL makes it out to be. Not an expert however from what I've heard the best path is to ignore the hype and go with an OASL Academy that has a League 1 Ontario team so you have a formal path to follow which will now also be a feeder to the new CPL. Based on what I've read it seems playing League 1 is a better springboard to professional teams globally.
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Post by Hold my Latte on Dec 12, 2018 18:01:34 GMT
Heard that Burlington Girls U17 OPDL may be folding as even with combining U16 and U17 they are struggling to maintain a roster. Was no U17 team in 2018 Looking to add 2002 players to the existing 2003 players to grow roster / match with other U17 teams who are half 2002’s
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Post by luisluis on Dec 12, 2018 21:04:09 GMT
Congratulations to your son! I wouldn't buy the OPDL hype. Its a sales pitch. Just look at the track record. Ask how many OPDL male players have been selected for national camps? Most of the kids at national camps are coming from the MLS academies with a handful from elsewhere. You can verify that on the CSA's website. If your son wants a shot at Nationals, he has better odds by making one of the MLS academies. Wondering what everyone’s feelings are re the whole Provincial Projects / Provincial Team thing. My son plays for one of the top OASL academies and has received excellent training from them for the past number of years. He was referred to one of the Talent on Location Days and has now progressed all the way to the Provincial Project stage - meaning he’s in the final 50 or so kids from which 22 will be selected to represent Ontario. It sounds like a great opportunity to play at an elite level and potentially get scouted for the National program - and it’s something he should be very proud of - but he’s actually mostly anxious because in trying to decipher the cryptic and at times conflicting “rules”, he now has 2 weeks to sign on with an OPDL team or he cannot continue with the Provincial Team despite earning his spot? He’s a loyal kid and has already committed to his excellent Academy for the 2019 season. What to do??
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Post by JJ on Dec 12, 2018 21:34:21 GMT
Stay whey you are at, they got you to this level not some random OPDL club that you are being forced to join. What are you really missing out on??? A weekend of soccer against Quebec???
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Post by cdnwanderer on Dec 12, 2018 22:26:22 GMT
As a club coach, my advice would be to stay with the academy if you're happy there. The Provincial Team is not a real Provincial team in that it has the best players in the province. It is an OPDL select team, it has the best players in the OPDL. Club players and Academy players aren't invited to be part of the team, and most of the top players are not in the OPDL.
The provincial team only play 2 games against Quebec, and that's it. It's not worth leaving a program you are happy with, for a little bit of ego boost saying you're on the provincial team. If your son is good enough to get noticed, and has potential to go somewhere, the Academy should be putting him in a position to be noticed. Being on the provincial team will not do that either way.
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Post by H on Dec 13, 2018 18:11:35 GMT
As a club coach, my advice would be to stay with the academy if you're happy there. The Provincial Team is not a real Provincial team in that it has the best players in the province. It is an OPDL select team, it has the best players in the OPDL. Club players and Academy players aren't invited to be part of the team, and most of the top players are not in the OPDL. The provincial team only play 2 games against Quebec, and that's it. It's not worth leaving a program you are happy with, for a little bit of ego boost saying you're on the provincial team. If your son is good enough to get noticed, and has potential to go somewhere, the Academy should be putting him in a position to be noticed. Being on the provincial team will not do that either way. Yes this definitely enters into the equation. Obviously the “provincial team” does not include TFC or some of the best OASL Academies (Sigma, FC Durham) who I believe didn’t send players to TOLD (or at least my son said he didn’t recognize any of their players there) likely for fear of losing them in the next year. Nonetheless, I think it would be good for him to play in this kind of competitive environment, if nothing else for the experience more than any perceived “exposure”. And for now it looks like we can just ride it out, stay with our Academy and not worry about switching to OPDL until sometime over the next year if he wants to stay with the provincial program. I’d say that based on what I’ve heard there’s a fair chance that things could be totally different regarding the OPDL and OASL by this time next year. The OPDL ain’t really a “flagship” league in any respect other than it’s promoted as such by Ontario Soccer - and this Provincial program is one of the ways they’re trying to strengthen that case (by poaching some of the top players from other leagues).
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Post by protega on Dec 14, 2018 14:14:08 GMT
Are you sure you have that much time to make the decision about switching? I was under the impression you would have to switch by this January. I could be wrong, but if you have more than a year I would have thought more people would have milked their system.
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Post by H on Dec 15, 2018 4:52:31 GMT
Are you sure you have that much time to make the decision about switching? I was under the impression you would have to switch by this January. I could be wrong, but if you have more than a year I would have thought more people would have milked their system. I was very confused by the wording of the rules. However I spoke to the Ontario Soccer High Performance Senior Coordinator and confirmed that the OPDL requirement comes into play in the following year. If he makes the final Provincial Team this year he gets an automatic invite to the final Screening next year - and if he then makes the 2020 Provincial Projects out of that session THEN he will have to show proof that he has migrated to OPDL in order to continue in the Provincial program. Conversely, if he doesn’t make it all the way to the final Provincial team this year, he is not eligible to participate in a TOLD event again (i.e. he can only get invited to a screening event by being scouted in the OPDL). So either way he has to migrate to OPDL if he wishes to continue in the Provincial program NEXT year.
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Post by somuchquestions on Dec 17, 2018 20:11:37 GMT
What exactly does the provincial team get you? a weekend tournament vs quebec? why are all these opdl teams announcing on twitter that so and so kid just signed an opdl contract? does it mean they dont pay? is a free scholarship ride?
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